Clergy, the church, and the state
There have been times where I hear wedding stories from fellow clergy and really want to tear up my license to marry and send it back to the government. (note: of course all weddings I have done have been very lovely and special)
But there are so many horror stories out there from clergy that I wonder why were are in this business at all, especially with the focus being more on the party than the actual purpose we are gathering together.
My wife came across this interesting article and shared it with me, “A Call to Clergy: Stop Performing (Legal) Marriages!”
While I don’t agree with everything he says, it certainly does put an interesting thought before us.
Should clergy be performing legal marriages?
Here’s what I think.
There was a time when clergy were once the local “educated” people. They were the ones with the university degrees and seen as smart folk living in rural places.
As a result, they became trusted, not just by locals, but also by government in being able to do certain tasks on their behalf. Such as sign marriage licenses. This has evolved to include things like passports as well. In a way, it kind of made sense since they were there in positions of trusted leadership in the community, and often the only option for such services.
But that’s changed.
Now the world is much more connected than it had been. Now people travel much further as services are being consolidated in regional centres (shopping, government services, education, employment, etc…) and the need to have these services available in every community has been diminished. There is also, at least in Canada, a growing dependence on people called “justice of the peace” or “marriage commissioners” who are able to perform marriages on the government’s behalf in place of clergy.
So, Tony raises a very fine question in the link above. Should we still be performing services on behalf of the government?
My response is “No.”
If the state wants to manage licenses for marriage, then it should be state appointed representatives who perform them. Yes, I am appointed by the state, but I agree with Tony in saying we should be separate from them for it makes it tricky when we stand up against the what we see the government doing in the face of what we see needing to be done in our communities.
Add to this the increasing secularization of our “sacraments”; random families calling to get their children “done” (baptized); increasingly asking for “less God” in marriages and funerals; all of this makes it harder on someone like me to proclaim the Truth when no one cares to listen. (this does not stop me by the way)
I would like to see marriages look like this… When planning your wedding, plan your state appointed service at the location of your choice, but also approach the church to seek a service of blessing for you and your loved one. I would love to see this happen as we do for our other sacraments, incorporated right into our time of public worship (ie. Sunday mornings). This way your biological family and your church family can support and celebrate with you in union with each other.
For those who don’t want God in their services, the option is there. For those who do, the option is there as well. As for right now, if you ask me to do a wedding for you, don’t even ask if I can leave God out of it. It’s not going to happen. But I do know some nice people who can act as a justice of the peace who would love to preside over your wedding.
Of course, whatever you choose, may God bless you on your journey.
Thoughts?
Wholly Holy
“Wholly Holy”
Isaiah 6:1-8; Matthew 16:13-19
It was 2 years ago this weekend when I, myself, was covenanted with the good people of Carman United Church in Sydney Mines. A service that marked the end of a long journey that began 7 years before, when I was moved by the Holy Spirit to respond to the call of God to pursue ordained ministry. An undeniable call which changed my life drastically 9 years and 3 days ago.
It happened in a church service. One I almost didn’t make it to. My wife and I had hoped to take in the evening service that day, but then we remembered my wife was reading scripture, so we couldn’t have a lazy Sunday morning like we hoped we would. read more…
Some Get Up And Go
“Some Get Up And Go”
Mark 2: 1-12
We’re going to deal with some difficult scripture readings from the life of Jesus over the next few weeks. Namely, we’re going to look at miracles. Miracle stories in the Bible can be tough for us to read at times. These are stories of healing, stories of control over nature, stories of demon possession. Stories which challenge how we look at the world, especially when miracles change the outcome of things we normally expect.
Many of us know someone who has been in need of healing, and have probably prayed for it to happen. Yet, despite our prayers, serious illness often wins more often than we would like to see.
Conditions like cancer and dementia feel like they are rampant in our society. So far this year I’ve had two funerals, both victims of cancer. One was 47, the other 56. Too young, too soon. No doubt for both of these men there were people praying for a miracle to happen, and they still passed away.
Yet in other situations people seem to be healed and allowed to live. The cancer might go into remission, never to come back. We struggle with these. Who decides who gets what disease? Who decides what impact it will have on the person? Who gets to decide who lives and who dies? read more…
The Importance of Leadership

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Sometimes we find little nuggets in places we never expect to find them. In fact, I have to say I’m going to refer to someone I might never have predicted I would refer to on this blog.
There was a recent article in the United Church Observer magazine where they interviewed Rev. Brent Hawkes.
While Brent and I have very different approaches to ministry, there is one very key value we share.
Leadership.
Hawkes correctly identifies that the United Church of Canada is making a huge mistake in de-emphasizing the role of clergy.
To be perfectly honest, if I were to consider starting over again in ministry, I would not have chosen the path I have taken. I would have probably saved myself a lot of time, money, and frustration had I taken a lay leadership approach. To many of us, it feels like the church is lifting up lay leadership to be equal to trained, ordained, called, clergy. This is disturbing on many levels to me as one who has undergone scrutiny of call and years of discernment and training. It also raises the point as to whether I have a valid claim to ask for reimbursement of cost and loss of wages over those six years. But I won’t go there…
The church is facing a huge clergy shortage in the very, VERY near future. It’s response? Enable lay people to take their place. People who have less training and scrutiny and let them loose in our churches.
Now, I am not saying all lay people are not cut out for this role, but clearly there is a certain percentage that are capable of doing great amounts of damage.
What the church should be doing is addressing the issue of why we have found ourselves in such a place, and look at emphasizing the role of clergy while finding ways in which we can assist presbyteries and churches in identifying those who have potential calls to serve in professional ministry positions.
Our church is at a point in its life where leadership is going to be a critical element in looking to the future of the church. De-emphasizing the role of the minster is not going to help in this leadership gap. Our churches and the identifiable leader (clergy) need to be visible in our communities and show we are there. Otherwise, we’re just a club that meets in Sunday mornings with elected boards and leadership.
Say what you will about enabling the laity and equipping people for ministry. I agree with this. But, in the end one thing is clear, people still look to their trained, recognized clergy for leadership and direction in the local ministry of the church. As much as I might like it to be different.
I know everyone may not agree with me on this, but in my experience, this is the truth.
Into What Then Were You Baptized?
“Into What Then Were You Baptized?”
Acts 19:1-7
Growing up I was involved with Cubs and Scouts. I enjoyed it. The things we learned by earning badges, spending time with friends, exploring the outdoors on hikes and camping trips. I also remember we had to state the Scout oath every meeting. We all know the motto, “Be prepared” but I also remember reciting the oath, or promise.
“On my honour
I promise that I will do my best
To do my duty to God and the Queen
To help other people at all times,
And to carry out the spirit of the Scout Law.”
It’s a nice promise to make. Who doesn’t want to do their best or their duty as citizens? And certainly promising to help out other people is a noble promise to make.
I remember the pressure each week when the leader would come to me and ask “Did you do a good deed today?” You knew it was coming, but to a 10 year old, that’s a mighty big question to ask. Now, I’m not saying I lied, but there may have been times when I stretched a little bit in providing my answer. read more…